From where i sit, Lava and all the rest of these sites are the same - especially for women my age (mid 40s) and right there, you know my gripe! I'm fed up with the games people play; fed up with the shallow people who play 'em. This isn't about "female psychology" fella's. It's not about "losers" or "winners" (whatever that means) It's about a society that values youth and conventional beauty -even when you're as "old" as me! This site and the others like it are trading on that, so don't kid yourselves. This is a meat market and little else. In my age group, at least, one in ten might be on the up and up. Findng that one guy is like winning the lottery. The rest want a trophy chick to haul around town and show off. As a kind, honourable - and I like to think - non-egotistical person, these sites have slain my self-esteem more than a few times. A winning "profile"? What "profile"? It's only the picture they're all going by, right? Who are we kidding here anyway? Not me. Not anymore.